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Drilled holes into ram air ducts...definite performance decrease?

1.3K views 14 replies 11 participants last post by  Killroy1999  
#1 ·
Drilled 2 small holes into the lower area of the ram air ducts so that I could fit my dual filament LP flushmounts.

Other than the change in intake sound, I'm not sure that there was a performance decrease. I realize that the ram air ducts are supposed to be sealed w/ only 1 way in and one way out, but could the pressure drop I created by drilling these holes, really decrease performance that much?

Anyone w/ concrete evidence have info?




-r.
 
#8 ·
Do the new R6s have a MAP sensor? Without a MAP or a MAF I dont see how the fuel computer can make the correct adjustments to take advantage of ram air. Prove me wrong, but ram air might be more of a gimic than a performance increaser. Unless the bike is tuned to run a little rich at low speed torque output and "just right" at track speeds. Data logger anyone?
 
#9 ·
read a review where the did a test with serveral bike w/ ram-air. They put the bike on the dyno, then hooked up one of those compressors used to start up jets and set it up to pressurise the intake to the pressues the bike would have at speeds. They found a signifigant difference on th sportbikes. I stoped readding when they started talking about the superbikes.

The idea of RAM-air is to pressurize the intake with fresh cold air. Pressuized air = more O2. Cold air is more dense whiich = more O2. More O2 = more explossion per stroke.

What I am saying is that depending where the holes are it might make a difference. (exactly what ochlocracy said.)
 
#10 ·
What year bikes are these? When I changed my '04 they didn't seem to be near the ducts :umm Then again i didn't use dual filiment
 
#12 ·
anorexics are faster

Yeah, but the system doesn't get significantly pressurized until you get past like 80mph (maybe it's even 100mph).

So, if the difference is big as far as pressurizing goes, then you'll only notice it (if you do notice it) at higher speeds.

However, I think it was only about 3% or something that was gained at the highest pressurization, so I wouldn't fret about it. Just lose 15lbs and you'll make up the difference.

-Justin
 
#13 ·
^^^where did you here that you need 80mph to pruduce pressure? thats simply not the case. Ram air starts working at much lower speeds then that. There is no map sensore but they really wouldnt be effective for ram air. A maf would but again the r6 does not have one. The bike has a fuel map for different throtlle posistions and an intake pressure sensor to help compinsate for the ram air.
 
#14 ·
hmmm...

Lots of good info goin on in this thread. Thanks a lot guys.

What I may wind up doing is cutting the lower portion off of the air ducts (right above the new holes I made and doing a little plastic welding to seal the ducts up again.

This would effectively reduce the volume of the ram ain tracts, possibly increasing pressure a tiny bit. Maybe I'll get a nice little bump in hp?

Again, thanks for the info fellas. I really wasn't expecting to get as much help as I did.



-r.
 
#15 ·
logandzwon said:
read a review where the did a test with serveral bike w/ ram-air. They put the bike on the dyno, then hooked up one of those compressors used to start up jets and set it up to pressurise the intake to the pressues the bike would have at speeds. They found a signifigant difference on th sportbikes. I stoped readding when they started talking about the superbikes.

The idea of RAM-air is to pressurize the intake with fresh cold air. Pressuized air = more O2. Cold air is more dense whiich = more O2. More O2 = more explossion per stroke.

What I am saying is that depending where the holes are it might make a difference. (exactly what ochlocracy said.)

MAP means manifold absolute pressure. So, if the bike has one of these it can adjust for the correct amount of fuel. Aparently it does. That’s cool, ram air works then. How much does it work, that another story. It could be small potatoes, though. Any test data. And not some monster compressor that logandzwon said.



Some one said that the 6 had two pressor sensors. Is this true, because that would seem redundant.

I have a 00, so I dont know about the pressure sensors.