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R6Pirate · 11-15-2007, 11:37 AM

I was down the street from my house coming home. There is this stop sign where cops like to hide and watch for people rolling the stop. Well i came up to the stop kinda hot slowed down to a stop put down my left foot and took off. I assessed the traffic situation before i got to the stop and there was only one car as cross traffic, it was a silver crown vic making a left going in the same direction i was going but one lane to my left. I looked both ways and didnt see any cars either side and basically did a quick stop. I stopped moving although it wasn't a stop, 1-2-3, go situation...more like a stop-go and i gassed out kind of quick without breaking the speed limit, popping a wheelie or being in anyway out of control, i would say 1/2 throttle. Now i know where he was parked because it is the same spot they always park themselves at. He definitely didnt have his running light on because i would have seen him. Well he came after me and didnt light me up until i was on my street, i saw his lights as after i was already on my driveway so i kept driving up my drive way and stopped next to my car. He cited me on my driveway for rolling the stop.

2 questions:
1. Aren't LEO's supposed to have at least their running lights on if they are "stalking" after dark.
2. Are they allowed to cite you on your own property?

This guy wasn't really much of a dick, dmv or law doesnt say you need to count to 3 then start moving again, i did stop. He just pulled me over for being on a crotch rocket with a full suit on, loud exhaust and pulling away from the intersection kinda quick. I could tell he was holding back from being a dick. I think he was following me and saw me make a quick left into my neighborhood thinking i was trying to ditch/elude him. He grabbed all my paperwork like he was pissed.

Nightrider05 · 11-15-2007, 04:42 PM

If you really think you were cited wrongly, take it to court. If you think there might have been a chance that you didn't stop fully, then he gave you the correct ticket.

I got the same thing but in my vehicle and found out it wasn't even worth fighting with a lawyer since it was only a $75 dollar ticket and maybe like 1 point.

MikeD993 · 11-15-2007, 05:25 PM

1. No
2. Yes

You can complain that he took too long waiting to stop you, but theres no immunity just because you made it home. What was the distance from when he got behind you to when he made the stop? If he followed you for like a mile, maybe it would be strange. But still he can say he was waiting for a return on your plate or something.

You need to defend the stop sign violation, not how/where he stopped you. You need to be albe to say for certain that your wheels stopped moving, not just that you put your foot down. Good luck.

R6Pirate · 11-15-2007, 05:50 PM

So basically im SOL because the word of an LEO is like the word of god to judges. I'm going to try and fight it but most of all i need to see if i can get second chance traffic school. Thanks for the replies.

Scott_R6 · 11-15-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by R6Pirate

So basically im SOL because the word of an LEO is like the word of god to judges. I'm going to try and fight it but most of all i need to see if i can get second chance traffic school. Thanks for the replies.

not true at all, was it a points violation or just the price of the citation? not sure about Cali but here in Pa we can site for points AND the citation price or just the citation price and no points. and your complaint of how long he followed you is nonsense as well as him citing you in your driveway is perfectly fine.....sometimes it takes a few seconds for your registration info to come back on our MDT's.....take it to court if you feel you were wrongly cited.

Dank Ink · 11-15-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by R6Pirate

So basically im SOL because the word of an LEO is like the word of god to judges. I'm going to try and fight it but most of all i need to see if i can get second chance traffic school. Thanks for the replies.

around where was this? i see your location says VC... have u gone to bike night in the past? do i know you?

dazhahs23 · 11-23-2007, 06:40 PM

R6Pirate, PM me or e-mail me (in my contact info) and I'll try to help. I am in Ca also and actually received a failure to stop at a stop sign ticket, fought it in court, lost, and then appealed and had it overturned by the appellate judge. I'd be happy to share the information with you.

myred05r6 · 11-23-2007, 07:12 PM

You dont have to stop someone as soon as you see the violation. It is preferred though. And yes he can sight you on your property. He followed you then made the contact when necessary. Like I said though I am going to stop someone as soon as I see the violation comitted. But every LEO is different.

R6Pirate · 11-23-2007, 08:42 PM

Hell heres the deal, i stopped...period. I was in full leathers with a loud ass exhaust and ride through my neighborhood like i stole the bike (usually, not this time.) I know i ride like an ass but at the same time no matter what anyone thinks its better to ride aggressive and stay infront of the problems rather than wait for the problems (other people) to come to you. If i crash and its my fault, i will know how to react better than if i get hit unexpectedly by some jackoff. I have ridden dirt bikes quads and what not since i learn to ride a bike and have eaten crap countless of times always kept my cool in those situations. I know im not bullet proof and at the same time i dont push my self into bad situations or near any limits when i ride because i know solid ground is less forgiving than dirt. For this the cops around here know me, my bike, and my car very well. Some respect me for it and some have a vendetta against me (yes i have been waved at by the nice ones in down when i ride by.) I am not just trying to get out of some random ticket, i am trying to get out of a bs ticket that no matter what i say i could never prove right against the word of a LEO hence the reason for finding a loop hole out of the ticket. I have been to court before and proved a LEO wrong and won cases and you know its not fair that when i am proven of doing wrong i get punished and when i prove a LEO wrong/lied they get let off with a nice try. Just my

Edit: This is not directed at anyone in particular it just seems that most people automatically get the immature throttle happy POS kid mindset.