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Old 05-26-2006, 02:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I took the MSF course an passed but the hardest part for me to pick up is taken coners. And what I mean is looking thru the turn, I understand the concept but where do look or what do you focus on????????
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Old 05-26-2006, 02:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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look at the exit of the turn.................this doesnt mean however "ull go automatically where u look" ...u still have to set up ur proper form and what not.

just take it easy dude...there is no substitute for time.
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Old 05-26-2006, 03:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It depends heavily on the type of turn, there's no one answer for this question.

For example, if you're doing a U-turn, you want to look completely over your shoulder and behind you down the road. Literally turn your head as far as your neck will let it go and just lock your eyes on the traffic light a block or so away.

For normal turns the bottom line is, to really understand what to focus on, you need to know the turn really well. Even a professional AMA racer couldn't get on a track for the very first time and ride a perfect lap. You need to have a good idea of how sharp the turns are, what the grade is, etc.

This sounds wierd at first, but it's true. If you are making a sharp turn (a hairpin, perhaps) to the right and you have a cliff side on your right side, you literally want to stare straight at the cliff while you're turning. The reason for that is because, of course, you do not have x-ray vision and you cannot stare at the turn becuz...you guessed it...there's a cliff blocking your view. But, the road is there, whether or not you can see it. so, as long as you keep your head turned way to the right and you keep your eyes directed on that cliff as if you could see the road on the other side of it, you will make that turn effortlessly. It's a really wierd thing to get used to, I'm still getting used to it myself. But, that furthers my point that you really need to know the turns well. YOu couldn't possibly know how far to turn your head or that you had to stare at the cliff unless you knew that the road kept curving around that bend. Make sense?

Also, as far as focusing on just one point, don't do that. That's called target fixation. YOu took the MSF, so you understand that if you look at an object while riding, you will hit that object. If you're on that same road with the cliff, and you lock your eyes on a single piece of that cliff (maybe a shrub or a big rock), that's gonna mess you up. You want to let your eyes move along the surface of the cliff as you move, but you want to keep your head turned toward it and keep your eyes locked on that turn behind the cliff.

Essentially you want your eyes to continuously follow the road ahead of you. If you are entering a turn, your eyes should already be looking at the exit of hte turn. If you are exiting a turn, your eyes should already be focused all the way down the end of the straight-away and on the entrance point to the next turn. If you have something blocking your view thru that turn, stare at whatever it is that's in your way as if you could still see the road behind it.

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...just take it easy dude...there is no substitute for time.
Your reply went up while I was still typing. Huge +1 here. Go at your own pace and you'll never end up in a situation you can't control.
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If you are making a sharp turn (a hairpin, perhaps) to the right and you have a cliff side on your right side, you literally want to stare straight at the cliff while you're turning. <snip> It's a really wierd thing to get used to, I'm still getting used to it myself.
That is really weird. My suggestion: Don't get used to staring at cliff walls while turning. If you're really in the tight twisties, look at the vanishing point of the road. Much safer and useful. If you really want to see that rock wall for some odd reason, use your peripheral vision.
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Old 05-26-2006, 05:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Look as far through the turn as possable. If you cant see the exit, my advice, dont push it. Me personally, on twisties that I cant see the exit, I will never push me or my bike at all. You never know whats on the other side, a car, dead dear, stones, anything.

Thats how you wreck.
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Old 05-26-2006, 05:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I've read and have been practicing finding the apex of the turn as the first point of sight. From there, look as far through the turn as possible. But again, there are tons of different types of turns, so there's many ways to handle them...
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yea, if you're in a corner and you can't see a turn, better take it easy.

you never know what's on the other side... car, daed dear, stones, sonofwolf, owls.

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follow all advices...

and never, ever look infront the bike while taking a corner... fast or not, that split second you stop paying attention will cost you dearly...
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yea, if you're in a corner and you can't see a turn, better take it easy.

you never know what's on the other side... car, daed dear, stones, sonofwolf, owls.

Have I ever told you about the time an owl swooped down and hit me in the head??

OMG, sonofwolf is around the next bend!!!!
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Old 05-27-2006, 07:51 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Taken corners? Do you mean taking corners?
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