PERMANENT FIX FOR 99-02 TRANSMISSION FAILURE

[Thrak]

Its not the "click" into 2nd that is the problem, Yamaha's are notorius for a "clunky" trans compared to other companies... I dont think you really understand the problem here.

If you've never had your tranny pop out of 2nd gear, then the chance of it happening is not very likely... the more it happens the worse it gets... so, if it hasnt happened yet, it probably wont.

You can add a turbo and 400hp if you want, if the dogs are holding, they will hold. Period.


I havent heard of any 03 gearbox problem yet either... but that doesnt mean it cant/wont happen with someone that grinds the shift all the time.

If you read thru the mega-thread about this, you'll see that almost ALL of the bikes w/ problems were bought used... likely bought used from newbie that couldnt shift it.


Mario, its not a design problem... the trans functions perfectly when used properly. Did you buy your bike brand new or was it used?

[blackonwhite99r6]

Im not saying that and I understand the problem and Ive read the ginormous thread as well. Even if I havent had a problem with my tranny yet I cant be sure that my shifts will all be perfect and I dont want to deal with the problem during next summer when I could be riding. Im gonna be riding a lot harder at the track and stunting and Ive been good to my bike so far with 0 problems from the transmission its more preventative than anything. A problem this notorious cant go overlooked.

[aknee1]

From an engineering perspective the tranny works fine, which is what Thrak is saying. I had the 2nd gear problem, and I undercut the gear dogs myself so I have seen the damage first hand . As Thrak stated the problem occurs due to rider error.

If you miss 2nd gear a few too many times you have done enough damage to start the cycle. I'm sure I fooked the dogs while riding at the track, I used to miss 2nd all the time, I will blame the boots, my rearsets and lastly me for it. Once I went to GP shift I never missed an upshift.

[Thrak]

Originally Posted by blackonwhite99r6

Im not saying that and I understand the problem and Ive read the ginormous thread as well. Even if I havent had a problem with my tranny yet I cant be sure that my shifts will all be perfect and I dont want to deal with the problem during next summer when I could be riding. Im gonna be riding a lot harder at the track and stunting and Ive been good to my bike so far with 0 problems from the transmission its more preventative than anything. A problem this notorious cant go overlooked.

You dont get it. It doesnt matter how "hard" your ride or how much you stunt.

If its not skipping out of gear, and you continue to shift properly, you WILL NOT HAVE THE PROBLEM.

No need to spend $$$ you dont have to, especially if you're about to start tracking it.

[bulldogr6]

Originally Posted by Thrak

You dont get it. It doesnt matter how "hard" your ride or how much you stunt.

If its not skipping out of gear, and you continue to shift properly, you WILL NOT HAVE THE PROBLEM.

No need to spend $$$ you dont have to, especially if you're about to start tracking it.

Word. 30k street and track nothing yet.

[forumsearcher]

I purchsed my bike with the 2nd gear problem... It cost me $100 to fix my 2nd gear, and a day of work... I would rather fix the gears a few times than go and spend $1300. Hopefully I am a better shifter than the first owner.

[mariospeedwagon]

Mario, its not a design problem... the trans functions perfectly when used properly. Did you buy your bike brand new or was it used?

It was new.

[blackonwhite99r6]

Thrak what I am saying is that since I will be stunting I cant be sure that I will ALWAYS be shifting properly and I have missed a few shifts on my bike and Im sure the first owner did too. I understand that if you shift properly on a tranny that is 100% you wont have any problems and although Im not getting any now when I start doing first and second gear wheelies I might experience the problem. Im saying there is no way my tranny is 100% with 24,000 miles on it and with a lot of people having theirs shit the bed there must be something going on because no other bike has this much of a problem.

What I think you arent understanding is that Im not arguing with you over the fact that shifting properly on a tranny that doesnt have any problems will keep you problem free for 100,000 miles or more. What I AM arguing is that there is no way my tranny is 100% (My bike had an r1 rear shock with a piece cut out of the swingarm...kinda gives me an idea of what Im dealin with). With a transmission that is closer to failure (maybe 20 bad shifts instead of 40, who really knows) an already sensitive transmission (proven by a lot of people with tranny failure) will be more likely to fail and I would rather replace it (either new 2nd gear dogs or 03 tranny or if it looks real good then nothing) this winter when I have the time to deal with it and not miss any riding, then to have the problem come up when I am riding next summer. That is all Im saying, Id rather make sure everything is 100% and KNOW then to find out that you were 1 bad shift away from tranny failure....

To clarify and summarize:

Thrak you are right but I would like some preventative medecine for my bike with 24k while I have time to work on it without sacraficing riding time.

[Thrak]

Originally Posted by mariospeedwagon

It was new.

Was it your first bike?

[mariospeedwagon]

Ha freaking ha -- no, it was my third, plus numerous test bikes I got to thrash, smart-ass....