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Old 07-15-2006, 01:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default how to: color sand and polish

this can be used in conjunction with my how to on painting HERE, or to just remove surface scratches.

tools/supplies needed:
variable speed buffer
6.5 or 8 inch foam cutting pad
6.5 or 8 inch foam polishing pad
3m rubbing compound (liquid)
3m hand glaze (liquid)
1200 / 1500 / 2000 grit sand paper
a bucket o' clean water with 3-5 drops of dish soap
clean microfiber towels
tack rag
well lit area


this is tedious and time consuming but when done right it makes a paint job stand out. this smooths the imperfections and removes the dirt, dust, and bugs that get in the clearcoat during painting like in THIS pic. it's ok but can be better, the clearcoat is rough loooking (ie: orange peel) and needs to be smoothed out.


i'm doing the gas tank on my just painted 750


color sanding:
1. wash the piece to remove any grit or dust, then gently dry it with a clean microfiber towel. next, take a tack rag and wipe it again to make sure the paint is absolutely clean. the smallest particle of grit can make this project go to shit real fast.

2. start with 1200 grit paper. soak the sand paper in the water/soap for 10 mins or so. sand a small section using short straight strokes. make sure to keep the sandpaper wet so it doesn't clog. use a microfiber cloth to wipe off the water so you can inspect your work. repeat the steps: sand, wipe, inspect. take note of any edges or corners. you don't want to sand through them. don't worry about sanding out all the imperfections with 1200 grit, the 1500 / 2000 will do that. sand the entire piece.

3. sand with 1500 grit. repeat the steps: sand, wipe. inspect. until the scratches from the 1200 grit are gone. sand the entire piece.

4. sand with 2000 grit. repeat the steps: sand, wipe. inspect. until the scratches from the 1500 grit are gone. sand the entire piece.


your piece should look like this after sanding:




very dull but smooth. it wants to be polished, it's begging to be polished ... so give it to it


polishing:
1. take your buffer, cutting pad and rubbing compound. shake compound well. pour a half dollar sized amount onto the pad and smear it onto the area about 10x10 inches. i do this to minimize the splatter. DO NOT start buffer while resting on the fairing/tank.

2. buff on a slow speed and slightly tilt it toward the working surface. use the 12, 9, or 3 o'clock positions on the pad to do the work. tilt your buffer away from any sharp edges.

3. once the compound gets hazy wipe off with microfiber cloth. inspect your work. move to the next area to be buffed. DO NOT buff the same area for a long period of time, you may burn through the clear coat and have to repaint the whole damn thing. keep it to moving. do the entire piece, repeat the steps: buff, haze, wipe, inspect. you should see the marks getting finer and finer until they're gone.

3. take your buffer, polishing pad, and hand glaze. repeat the steps: buff, haze, wipe, inspect. until the piece is shiny.

4. you could take it even further and use a polishing pad and liquid polish but that's not recommended for something that was just painted.


your piece will look like this when finished:






that's my truck in the reflection.


(and YES, that's the same tank ... you bastids!)
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Old 07-15-2006, 11:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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nice job... so how do you like 3m? i tend to stay away from their products.
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Old 07-15-2006, 11:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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nice job... so how do you like 3m? i tend to stay away from their products.
i like 3M just fine but that's all i've used far so i don't have anything to compare it to. the next set i paint i'm gonna use Meguiar's. i hear good things about them.
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Cside-really nice write up, how does this work on orange peel?
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Cside-really nice write up, how does this work on orange peel?
my gas tank looked just like the pic of my lower fairing. it had orange peel and a small bug flew in it

this takes all of that out and leaves a smooth buttery surface.
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another question for you, is it at all possible for you to press a fingernail into your paint? If you are trying real hard could you do it? Does the scuff and buff help harden paint?
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like i said before, if the paint cured correctly, you shouldn't have that prob. Ur painter didn't let it cure with enough time.

cside... u might wanna try some other stuff than meguiar's... u might be pleasantly surprised at what some of the online stuff that isn't offered over the counter can do.
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is it at all possible for you to press a fingernail into your paint? If you are trying real hard could you do it? Does the scuff and buff help harden paint?
nope. the paint is hard a few hours after it's sprayed. your painter forgot to use catalyst (hardener) that's mixed with the clear coat. that's what makes it hard.



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cside... u might wanna try some other stuff than meguiar's... u might be pleasantly surprised at what some of the online stuff that isn't offered over the counter can do.
if you know of a product i'll try it. i'm still knew to painting so my product knowledge is very limited.
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the paint wil harden over time. I used the correct ratio on my paint and a few weeks later my tank bag actually left marks in the clear. I thought I ruined the tank but they magically dissapeared when I left the tank bag off.
the painter didnt bake the paint. baking paint is only ment to cure/harden the paint faster.
wizards polishes are supposed to be good stuff too. 3M is some of the best stuff around. I dont know what you guys are talking about. go to a bodyshop and you will find 3m stuff used.
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very nice write up csideblue!
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