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Old 10-12-2004, 04:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ive heard some people that only raised the rear with shimmy's, like 3mm, 4mm and that would do the trick
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Old 10-12-2004, 04:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Ive heard some people that only raised the rear with shimmy's, like 3mm, 4mm and that would do the trick
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Old 10-27-2004, 09:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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what happens if one of the forks is off by like .05 millimeter??
I did my fork adjustment yesterday but i dind't have a cool super height measuring tool like in the picture. I used a ruler and it looks like its level but i have a feeling its not....
so what will happen if its a tiny bit off?
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:21 AM   #14 (permalink)
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what happens if one of the forks is off by like .05 millimeter??
I did my fork adjustment yesterday but i dind't have a cool super height measuring tool like in the picture. I used a ruler and it looks like its level but i have a feeling its not....
so what will happen if its a tiny bit off?
^^^^ditto^^^^

Did mine yesterday too and I had the same result when came to measurement.It was a fraction off,0.5mm exactly and no matter what,could get it to line up.And I also used a regular steel metric ruler.

Took it out for a spin and what a nice improvement.Thanks OCHLOCRACY.
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Old 10-28-2004, 11:44 AM   #15 (permalink)
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here is a conversation regarding the fork set up for a 70 series tire... just some food for thought before you blindly change the geometry on your bike because it seems to make sense... make sure you read it all!!

"with adjusting your ride height... on the 99-02 i have found that it is NOT necessary, the 6 rides better up high. In fact if you go to an aftermarket rear shock that has adj ride height, raise the rear AND the front. It comes from the factory set a little high to begin with so the 70 will put it pretty much where it needs to be (without an adj rear). Myself and a handful of racers have noticed that lowering the font to comp for a 70 series tire causes front end push (ie not good )

Not sure how the 03 differs

just a couple cents of advice from mine and others experiece"

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reply... "I dont agree (sorry) I tried to run the 70 series with out adjusting the ride height and the bike was very lazy. As soon as I restored the geometry the bike was itself again. Before I had a/m shocks I would drop the tripples but now that I have adjustable ride hight with my shocks i leave the frt at the stock height and adjust the rear.

I have an 02 and an 03 and they are both set up almost identical.
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If you use tire warmers, I would almost say it is mandatory you raise your front fender,

I use the tire bakers and with supercorsa's you can snake them in there pretty easy but with the Bt-002 (which is about 3mm taller) it gets really tough. They get hung up alot and it takes quite a bit of work to get them in there. Raising the fender would be a good idea if your warmers wont slip on easy"


response... "thats why bike set suggestions are just that...suggestions. Everyone has different riding styles and height, weight, body positioning that all effect the geometry of the bike once turn in begins. These 2 guys have both won ccs points championships so it works for them. But again this is exactly why there is no "chart" for bike set up. No height+weight=X set up for optimal handling that really works for everyone. Try lowering, if you get front end push...try raising back to where it was. That was all it took for me. (edit... I think this is similiar to what Och experienced)

again just my 2 cents"

that was a brief blurb from Big Deezul and I a day or so ago. The important thing to remember is that everyone has a different style of riding that requires different geometry of the bike for maximum performance. Personally, I have my preload cranked WAY up on the rear (cause stock shocks suck A$$) and I found that leaving the forks alone when going to a 70 series tire is fine, dropping the triples gave me front end push. Make sure your have a solid base line for suspension set up before you go adjusting your triples. (ie sag, comp, reb, damp) Once you know how the bike is handling when it is set up properly, then you can dial her in. If you do this backward you will be chasing the demons FOREVER!!!

tim

ps.. the TYPE of riding that you do may influence how you like the set up to feel as well. For instance, a drag racer, a cruiser, and a racer would all have COMPLETELY different set up.
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Old 10-28-2004, 12:27 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Actually I've been riding my 70 series tire on my 04' for about 4 and half months and noticed from day one it was a little stiffer to turn.

Ochlocracy did state in his post on his 2002 he did not do anything or adjusted his when the 70 series was installed.Except for the fender,though.Which I also adjusted from day1 with 70's.

I'm happy with the 8mm added hieght in the forks.

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Make sure your have a solid base line for suspension set up before you go adjusting your triples. (ie sag, comp, reb, damp) Once you know how the bike is handling when it is set up properly, then you can dial her in. If you do this backward you will be chasing the demons FOREVER!!!
Your probably right,Since this is more trial and error on my part and trying to figure out,it will be awhile before I'm happy with my set up.So far it has improved rasing 8mm on my 04',but still need adjustments sag,comp,reb,damp.

Again,good post and how to.Thanks.

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ok I have a newb question....does moving the front forks up 8mm make the front faring clear the tire??? Or do you have to move the faring itself???

I plan on going with a D208, up front but I want to go 70 series. How do you just adjust the fender, do you oval out the bolt holes and move it.

Thanks for any info.



And great how to by the way.
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:02 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Personally, I have my preload cranked WAY up on the rear (cause stock shocks suck A$$)

I totally agree with you on that, I hate it when my rear end jumps around in a corner, It is always set up near max.
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Is the HOW TO for raising the rear coming soon. i plan to put on my diablo 70 front tire on soon and would like to do this mod. thanks. also can raising the rear be done to an 02 (blue) with the stock suspension. thanks again, sorry about my ignorance.



did anyone with the diablos have to modify the front fender to make the tire avoid melting the fender......... (on an 02 again if possible)



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Old 10-28-2004, 03:52 PM   #20 (permalink)
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good info all around, as for raising the rear on the 02... technically NO, actually yes (assuming all stock components). Set your sag (see other "how too's") When you adjust preload, if it was set too soft you will notice that you do ride a bit higher, it is simply the spring compressing to much under your arse. More preload = tighter spring= higher ride height. but to technically adjust that you need aftermarket.

As for the front...keep in mind that a 70 series tire (also pending brand and model number) will carry a different profile completely and cause a difference at turn in. I wouldnt necessarily adjust the forks right off the bat. If you like it one way or another...thats whats best for you. I know that the 2 guys I race with are freakin fast and these adjustments are what they use. I thought my suspension was set up pretty well until I started getting fast on the track. I was WAY off. Stick with what you like, as always just spreadin my knowledge.

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