westgeronimo22... I can tell you of 3 WO1's that I knew personally get tossed out of flight school and their WO1 bars taken from them for DUI at Ft. Rucker. We had saturday PAI inspections at 0700 the next week every time. 1200 WO1's at the post theater. Think I am bullshitting? I will gladly put you in touch with the now CW5 that was the IERW Chief while I was at Flight School. MP's not getting involved with Officer's involved with DUI's? Wrong again. In my expereince they have always gotten involved when drunk people try to enter post at the gate, Officer, NCO, Enlisted alike... no distinction was made. The bullshit going on at Walter Reed is a travesty... MG George Weightman was my BDE CDR during OIF II, he was a BG at the time. He was extremely concerned for our safety and seemed to truly care. I say this not because I personally know the man because I don't, other than him being a passenger in my aircraft on a couple of occasions, but I say this because of his actions while there. I can not say one way or another whether what happened at Walter Reed was his fault, but I will say this: he had been in Command for barely 6 months. LTG Kiley had that command for 3 years and had been the Surgeon General of the Army since. He knew about the problems and let them go. I do think that those Officers as well as the former Secretary of the Army are being held accountable for their actions. Maybe them all being fired and forced to retire was not good enough for you. Please tell me more about these Officers that are getting off the hook in Iraq. Everything that I have seen officially when Officers have overstepped their bounds and done illegal, immoral, or unethical things they have been punished. I do not see the world through rose colored glasses. I understand that there are issues, and nothing is perfect, however the system dies the most good for the most people. I can not disagree with you more that good Officers are far and few between. In your post you make it sound like if an Officer makes a mistake they should fry for it, but Enlisted Soldiers that make mistakes get a slap on the wrist and get to learn from that mistake nearly punishment free? Is that correct? What ever happened to the NCO being the backbone of the Army? Did that go the way of the dodo bird when HRC started lowering promotion points to allow Soldiers to be promoted? It is the job of both the more senior Officers as well as the NCOs to train those young LT's and CPT's. Most Warrants were enlisted, the ones that weren't are policed by other Warrants... we will take care of our own. We will also help to train the LT's and CPT's, but NCO business is NCO business. That shit about CDR's telling Soldiers to execute a certain order is not written in stone. You are taught from Bsaic Training on that if the order is not legal, ethical and moral then you shall not obey it. So in a sense if he does give that order and you obey it then it is on you as well as him. Or do I have this confused with something else? As far as the Watergate Scandal is concerned it was a scandal. It was also in 1972... 35 years ago. It also involved the frigging CIA not the Army. Erlichman and Haldeman both went to jail and it also resulted in President Nixon resigning just prior to impeachment. Who wasn't punished during that scandal? Hell that punishment went all the way to the President. I really do not see where you were going with you arguements as to why this kid that has repeatedly driven drunk should not be punished to the full exten of the UCMJ. If he had been one of my Soldiers when I was an NCO I would not only punish him but I would punish everyone that was drinking with him that night. If they can't be trusted to take care of each other at home then how in the F&$! can they be trusted to take care of each other while in Iraq, Afghanistan, or anywhere else? I do not get your logic.
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